Richard III

Feb. 4th, 2013 01:19 pm
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The story of the unearthing of (what appears to be) the remains of Richard III is really cool:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21063882

Bones found, DNA tested, & the skeleton seems to fit what the historians say (how old Richard III was when he died, and that he had scoliosis, which would explain the hunchback), and the area they found the remains is about correct. I can't imagine the absolute glee that I would feel as a researcher. I am pretty sure, though, that the joy would go straight down to my toes.

In addition to that I looked up a brief history on Richard III from the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/richard_iii_king.shtml

There's the idle interest, when I've been reminded, about the Duke of Gloucester and, oh yeah, War of the Roses, and, oh yeah, House of York....

But reading that history again was influenced by seeing the Shakespeare play last summer & has allowed me to visualize it that much more. (a) Shakespeare did such an amazing job of showing Richard to be an unreal monster (of course, he's Shakespeare, so anything I add to the discussion is pretty much useless) and (b) looking at the brief history, I've no doubt on why Shakespeare would write the story because, my god, when you just look at the outlines of the facts (married his brother's widow & put his nephews - now stepsons - into the Tower of London from which they later disappeared & presumed murdered), the man was a horrible human being.

Date: 2013-02-05 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirreal13.livejournal.com
Now all they need to find are the bodies of the young victims of Richard's treachery; Edward the Fifth and his brother.

Date: 2013-02-05 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likethebeer.livejournal.com
Yes - I wonder where they are. And I wonder if these folks who have discovered this are now on the search for those two children.

Date: 2013-02-05 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirreal13.livejournal.com
The first step is to find the bones of the dogs they were thrown to...

oiy

Date: 2013-02-05 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likethebeer.livejournal.com
Forgot that. Grosssss.

Date: 2013-02-05 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirreal13.livejournal.com
Sorry for the grisly image, but I started thinking like "What would Richard's henchmen do?". I have no proof, but I had to assume the worst. I can't imagine what the heirs apparent went through every day.

It's like Julian* (the Apostate) whose father was killed by Constantius and who was held under house arrest in constant fear of death for ten years.
_________
*Still reading Gore Vidal's 1962 book, a few pages at a time.

Date: 2013-02-05 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seattleforge.livejournal.com
Don't forget though that it was the Tudors who paid Shakespeare to write the play Richard III. It is some epic propaganda. LOL.

the Tudors

Date: 2013-02-06 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likethebeer.livejournal.com
ooh - I didn't know that. Well, the old boy did a damned good job.

And the last Richard I saw was pretty damned good, too - such a wonderful experience being creeped out by (and at times laughing with) him, then watching him just go completely paranoid after he gets everything he's worked for.
http://americanplayers.org/plays-and-tickets/past-production/richard-iii-2012

2012's Richard III pipes in

Date: 2013-02-06 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likethebeer.livejournal.com
http://m.host.madison.com/news/local/richard-iii-s-bones-revive-debate-on-his-rep/article_d1f9285e-6fb9-11e2-bb52-0019bb2963f4.html

Date: 2013-02-06 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immemor.livejournal.com
This has been my favorite story of the week. Everyone else seems to be discussing some kind of game that was played on Sunday. Go figure.

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