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Seven of Nine has had sex with other people in front of her husband. whoa.

It's so strange, because I'm sitting there, thinking, "You know, this guy [Jack Ryan] was an asshole for making his wife have sex w/other people in front of him [well, they're saying that he 'forced' her]... but what does this have to do w/him being in politics?" That's an old argument, but why was I so pissed at Clinton? I think it was the blowjob in the Oval Office while he was talking to, what, one of his advisors, or ambassadors or something.

Anyway. Strange reaction on my part about this Jerri Ryan/Jack Ryan thing. Well, I think I'll read what Salon has to say about it, and put it out of my mind.

Edit: Ok, this is how blown out of proportion this has become in my head. He didn't make her have sex w/other people. He had sex w/her while another couple watched. Well, people getting all bothered about it is just absolutely ridiculous. And I'm trying to figure out how the records got unsealed.

Fucking pilgrims. Why did you fuck us up so badly?

Fucking pilgrims

Date: 2004-06-26 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erisreg.livejournal.com
well, they had a track record of it,..why do you think they were sent here,... aren't you supposed to be doing something besides focusing on the news?,.. go seduce the SO,..in front of people or not,..o.o

But... but... we have to buy paint!

Date: 2004-06-26 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likethebeer.livejournal.com
I'm all for the freedom of other people's sexuality, but I'm a little vanilla girl, myself.

Re: But... but... we have to buy paint!

Date: 2004-06-26 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erisreg.livejournal.com
just keep an open mind, you never know when you'll hear a little click and all of a sudden the most important thing in the world will be to get it on in a phone booth,..;)

Re: But... but... we have to buy paint!

Date: 2004-06-26 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likethebeer.livejournal.com
I'm a lot of bluster. I did hear there was a lot of fornicatin' in the woods last year, though, because it was Midsummer's night. And we're close enough to it now.

a lot of bluster

Date: 2004-06-26 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erisreg.livejournal.com
you know those first lunges you make before you go off the high board?
it serves the purpose of testing our frame of mind before we actually take the plunge,..:)

Re: a lot of bluster

Date: 2004-06-26 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likethebeer.livejournal.com
hmmm. I'll try to keep that in mind, or someplace a little lower.

a little lower

Date: 2004-06-26 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erisreg.livejournal.com
hehe,.. okay,.;D

Date: 2004-06-26 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seattleforge.livejournal.com
Well, the issue is two-fold.

Dems aren't the party claiming that the personal equals the political, which is why Clinton was censured. Apparently this doesn't apply to Newt Gengrich who left one wife on her deathbed, and left another when he lined up a 30 year old. So, this is what comes back to bite them on the ass.

I didn't know that they'd actually had sex in front of other couples, but that he had attempted to force her to have sex in an exhibitionist fashion on multiple occassions.. so, it isn't even so much the sex as it is the force issue.

The pilgrims did fuck this country up.. bloody handicap. But I don't think anyone digs on the idea that some dude was repeatedly forcing his wife, SO, date in to sexual situations that they didn't approve of.

The other thing to look at.. Ryan was getting murdered in this campaign up to now, so it is pretty much a non-issue.

a non-issue.

Date: 2004-06-26 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erisreg.livejournal.com
don't you have a fourtne cookie to write??,..;P

Re: a non-issue.

Date: 2004-06-26 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seattleforge.livejournal.com
I'm working on a VERY large cookie.

a VERY large cookie

Date: 2004-06-26 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erisreg.livejournal.com
well i'm sure it'll be a best seller,..
does it come with fried dumplings?,..o.o

Re: a VERY large cookie

Date: 2004-06-26 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seattleforge.livejournal.com
dunno about dumplings, but i can garrauntee there will be special sauce.

will be special sauce

Date: 2004-06-26 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erisreg.livejournal.com
heh,.. i get that a lot,.. now even from straight men,..o.o

Date: 2004-06-26 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likethebeer.livejournal.com
Forcing would be the only issue that bothers me, too, but it depends on what you mean by forced (I'm sure this is all stating the obvious). Forcing by just badgering over a long period of time, saying you think it will be overall good for the relationship until the partner reluctantly goes through w/it for that reason; or forcing even though your partner is saying, "I really, really don't want to do this." You're right, though, just when it came to my consciousness, he dropped out of the race.

No, this overt preachiness on the part of moral majority wannabees has come back to haunt them more than a few times.

Date: 2004-06-26 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seattleforge.livejournal.com
I'm eating it on a cracker.

I'm eating it on a cracker.

Date: 2004-06-26 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erisreg.livejournal.com
is this last nights wine,.. or a new bottle?

the taste of justice!

Date: 2004-06-26 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erisreg.livejournal.com
so you like your justice salty eh,..
no salt substitute for you then, when the lash comes around,..o.o

Date: 2004-07-01 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likethebeer.livejournal.com
Well, I've read a little of the statements in the proceedings (repeated on websites and a letter to Salon.com), and this was not a, "do it for the good of the relationship." It was some pretty mean, abusive stuff (as in his apparent statement that, "Tears are not a turn-on").

And there is the Clinton vs. Gingrich scenario, but I sometimes wish we'd just come out and say it: they're against it b/c it's convenient, it gets the job done in humiliating someone, and allows them to call on the most important Bible references.

sealed records

Date: 2004-06-26 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I remember reading that the Sun-Times or the Tribune forced the issue of unsealing the record re:: RYAN - court order. WI-C

Re: sealed records

Date: 2004-06-26 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likethebeer.livejournal.com
Is nothing sacred! The man coerced his wife in sex clubs to have sex while other couples watched. Why can't these people just be left alone. Jerri Ryan can't feel too good about that. I mean, she's Jerri Ryan, the erotic object of an entire Star Trek off-shoot. Ok, so maybe that's not such a hot thing to be.

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